{"id":5629,"date":"2022-08-20T15:39:57","date_gmt":"2022-08-20T14:39:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/?p=5629"},"modified":"2023-09-24T19:29:12","modified_gmt":"2023-09-24T18:29:12","slug":"august-20-2022-stacking-fubas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/august-20-2022-stacking-fubas\/","title":{"rendered":"August 20 2022 &#8211; stacking FUBAs"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"131\" height=\"67\" class=\"wp-image-2139\" src=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/dab-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/figure>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>On <a href=\"https:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/july-16-2022-stacked-fuba\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">July 16 2022<\/a> two <a class=\"hoverZoomLink\" href=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/FUBADAT307.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">FUBA DAT 307<\/a> Yagi antennas arrived at my QTH and just like my <a class=\"hoverZoomLink\" href=\"https:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/antenne12logper.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Emme Esse<\/a> logperiodic antennas I wanted to stack them in the best possible way. The <a class=\"hoverZoomLink\" href=\"https:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/nooelecLaNA_.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">nooelec LNA<\/a> was also replaced with the <a class=\"hoverZoomLink\" href=\"https:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/LNA05.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">RTL-SDR blog wideband<\/a> as I&#8217;m mainly using the <a class=\"hoverZoomLink\" href=\"https:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/rtl-sdr.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">RTL-SDR<\/a> for DAB reception.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>It&#8217;s not easy to find correct and useful information on stacking antennas on the internet. Moreover FUBA don&#8217;t provide a lot of info on their technical data sheet. Contacting their HQ ended in a promise but no real info.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>So I first tried a stacking distance of 150 cm. It was not too bad, but I had expected more of these aerials.<br \/>Then 188 cm spacing was set but that was disappointing: F\/B ratio was very poor and so was side lobe suppression. <br \/>Clem Schmidt from <a href=\"https:\/\/qirx.softsyst.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">QIRX<\/a> pointed me to the German <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rundfunkforum.de\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">rundfunkforum<\/a> where I got in touch with Bernhard.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>The first thing that needed to be done was measuring up the mechanical dimensions of the FUBA DAT 307. Specs can be found <a href=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/FUBADAT307.txt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><a class=\"hoverZoomLink\" href=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/FUBADAT307_3.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"hoverZoomLink\" src=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/FUBADAT307_3-800x500.jpg\" alt=\"FUBA DAT 307\" width=\"444\" height=\"244\" \/><\/a><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Using <a href=\"http:\/\/gal-ana.de\/basicmm\/en\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">MMANA-GAL<\/a> Bernhard did some simulations and came up with data for spacing distances of 80, 90, 100, 125 and 150 cm.<br \/>We agreed 80 and 125 cm would be the best options. I went for 80 cm spacing distance as the F\/B (X, -X) ratio is OK, except for 220 MHz. On the other hand the side lobes (Y, -Y) are outstanding, and muxes at 90\u00b0 can be nulled out, except of course for local powerhouses.<br \/>Choosing 125 cm would get me performance with a good overall F\/B ratio but with less side lobe suppression.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>So on August 18 in the evening I went for the 80 cm spacing distance. <br \/>Performance is very satisfying: F\/B ratio is certainly acceptable and the side lobe suppression is excellent!<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Conclusion: stacking antennas correctly will improve reception, especially if you are into DAB-DX!<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>Many thanks to Bernhard for his advice and assistance in this matter. <br \/>His expertise was invaluable and gave me more insight (although I still have a lot to learn!) in antennas. <br \/>Bernhard kindly allowed me to use his graphs on this blog page.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><a class=\"hoverZoomLink\" href=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/azimuth80cm.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"hoverZoomLink\" src=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/azimuth80cm-800x466.jpg\" alt=\"80 cm stacking space\" width=\"444\" height=\"244\" \/><\/a><br \/>80 cm stacking space<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><a class=\"hoverZoomLink\" href=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/azimuth125cm.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"hoverZoomLink\" src=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/azimuth125cm-800x464.jpg\" alt=\"125 cm stacking space\" width=\"444\" height=\"244\" \/><\/a><br \/>125 cm stacking space<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><a class=\"hoverZoomLink\" href=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/azimuthsingleFUBA.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"hoverZoomLink\" src=\"http:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/azimuthsingleFUBA-800x463.jpg\" alt=\"Single FUBA DAT 307\" width=\"444\" height=\"244\" \/><\/a><br \/>Single FUBA DAT 307<\/p>\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p><a class=\"hoverZoomLink\" href=\"https:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/antennas03.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"hoverZoomLink\" src=\"https:\/\/wijnants.info\/fmdx\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/antennas03-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"Stacked FUBA DAT 307\" width=\"444\" height=\"244\" \/><\/a><br \/>Stacked FUBA DAT 307<\/p>\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p><img id=\"hzDownscaled\" style=\"position: absolute; 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The nooelec LNA was also replaced with the RTL-SDR blog wideband as I&#8217;m mainly using the RTL-SDR for DAB reception. 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